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Petition: Get restrictions on relievers pitching (APPROVED)

Post  levins8990 on Tue Apr 06, 2010 11:56 pm

We need a restriction on relievers! People are only using one reliever and using that reliever for 5+ innings. This is redicilous especially since half of them have 30- stamina. Something like 45 innings in a season and a limit of 3 innings per game for all pitchers except closers. Closers should have a 2 inning limit or something like that.


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Re: Petition: Get restrictions on relievers pitching

Post  Joba Rulez 62 on Wed Apr 07, 2010 2:00 pm

the starting pitcher rule isnt in effect no more, it was taken out.

i agree with the relievers, there should be 3 inning limit. xxscarpoxx is 14-0 with matt gurrier out of the bullpen. in 36 appearences he has 80 innings pitched. its ridiculous
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petition: VOTE TO ALLOW CLOSERS TO ONLY PITCH 2 INNINGS

Post  Pablocrazy1 on Wed Apr 07, 2010 6:14 pm

I would like for a vote to come in to make it a rule to where closers can only pitch 2 inning max not 4 or 5. THX
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Re: Petition: Get restrictions on relievers pitching

Post  Joba Rulez 62 on Wed Apr 07, 2010 6:42 pm

i agree since xxscarpo is 14-0 with matt gurrier as his closer with 90 innings pitched
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Re: Petition: Get restrictions on relievers pitching

Post  Weso on Wed Apr 07, 2010 9:19 pm

I vote against they are harder to pitch with the longer they are out there
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Re: Petition: Get restrictions on relievers pitching

Post  PPLife on Wed Apr 07, 2010 10:36 pm

1) 80 innings divided by 36 appearances = 2.22 innings

I agree that we should be reasonable about using relief pitchers, but how do we all agree where to draw the line from what is normal and what is ridiculous?

I know for sure I have used my relievers for more than 2.22 innings on more than one occasion.


2) I didnt know the starting pitcher rule was not in effect. Is this true?
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Re: Petition: Get restrictions on relievers pitching

Post  levins8990 on Wed Apr 07, 2010 10:47 pm

I didn't know that either Im not sure that it has been taken out, I didn't get any messages or anything.

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Re: Petition: Get restrictions on relievers pitching

Post  PPLife on Wed Apr 07, 2010 10:52 pm

I can understand how sim gamers would see 2 inning max for closers as a good sim-style play rule.

There are multiple threads concerning relievers. So, if we were combining all of the reliever petitions so we all dont get confused, would it look like this?

closers = 2 innings
other relievers = 3 innings
80+ stamina relievers = ??? (i have no clue what the desire of that petition is)
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Re: Petition: Get restrictions on relievers pitching

Post  PPLife on Wed Apr 07, 2010 11:00 pm

I just read the other petition again and now i understand what he is saying.

He thinks the restriction should remain in place if his stamina is 80+, no matter how low his rating is.

hmmmm, I remember why the rule was described that way. It allowed people to have a low rated long reliever for extra-inning games, when the bullpen is empty, because it is illegal to use one of the 5 starters under any circumstances. I see your point though.

If the other petitions were approved to move to a vote, would the 3 inning/2inning rule take care of that problem without a separate vote?
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Re: Petition: Get restrictions on relievers pitching

Post  levins8990 on Thu Apr 08, 2010 1:05 am

I agree

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Re: Petition: Get restrictions on relievers pitching

Post  Joba Rulez 62 on Thu Apr 08, 2010 4:40 pm

scarpo pitched gurrier for 8.1 innings one game. and sometimes uses him for 6 or 7 innings, check gurrier stats on the website. thats a little ridiculous. how is someone 14-0 with their closer?


http://community.2ksports.com/community/league/player.cfm?l=370411&p=1008

matt gurrier's stats
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Re: Petition: Get restrictions on relievers pitching

Post  PPLife on Thu Apr 08, 2010 6:32 pm

oh, that is a lot. I would be interested in voting on that issue.

then again, that guy would probably be 14-0 with the bad news bears on the mound, lol.
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Re: Petition: Get restrictions on relievers pitching

Post  Weso on Thu Apr 08, 2010 10:59 pm

I don't think that we should put a restriction on this it becomes easier to hit a reliever the longer he is out there. It just so happens to be SCARPO can still locate well with his pitcher
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Re: Petition: Get restrictions on relievers pitching

Post  Weso on Thu Apr 08, 2010 11:00 pm

Also because this is a draft league it limits users that weren't there for the draft and didn't get the bullpen they wanted you have to think in more instances then just one person abusing something.
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Re: Petition: Get restrictions on relievers pitching

Post  levins8990 on Fri Apr 09, 2010 1:36 am

For the relievers with bad stamina it's pretty realistic but when people use relievers for 5,6 innings per game it becomes bs

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Re: Petition: Get restrictions on relievers pitching

Post  redsman944 on Fri Apr 09, 2010 2:44 am

As I look at this petation so far it is mixed. Personally I don't feel a 3 inning restriction is fair that is why we have middle and long relivers in the game. So I would like to see some comments on a 5 inning limit. Lets hear what you think on a 5 inning max.

I feel that you have to give some leway for a long reliver to come in a pitch a few innings especailly if he is good and your starter just got rocked in the 2nd or third inning.

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Re: Petition: Get restrictions on relievers pitching

Post  levins8990 on Fri Apr 09, 2010 2:47 am

I was only talking about su, mr, and closers long relief pitchers should have a season limit not a hame limit

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Re: Petition: Get restrictions on relievers pitching

Post  redsman944 on Fri Apr 09, 2010 1:01 pm

The simplier that we make everything the easier it will be to enforce and adhere to as well. Maybe 5 innings is to much but 3 is to little. I don't want to get to a place where we have to post who are the middle relivers and the set up men and then the closer. All of that will be to much to adhere to as well as enforce.

I do know that it is rare for a closer to go more than 1 1/3 innings or so. The set up man generally goes from 1-2 and your middle reliver can go as much as 3 innings. But I don't want to try to enforce that kind of a breakdown so that's why I am saying something like 4 and maybe 5 innings to have one rule that covers relivers period. And as I think about it maybe 5 innings is to many lets here your thoughts.

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Re: Petition: Get restrictions on relievers pitching

Post  dairyman81 on Fri Apr 09, 2010 1:35 pm

3 innings is more then enough or we could have a max number of innings for the seasons. Scarpo made this necessary.

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Re: Petition: Get restrictions on relievers pitching

Post  Joba Rulez 62 on Fri Apr 09, 2010 3:09 pm

i say 3 innings max for closers, middle relievers and setup men.

i say 5 innings max for long reliever.
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Re: Petition: Get restrictions on relievers pitching

Post  Weso on Fri Apr 09, 2010 11:06 pm

i say any reliever goes 4 innings max thats fair
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4 inning max

Post  levins8990 on Sat Apr 10, 2010 1:40 am

I agree who else wants 4 inning max for all relievers?

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Re: Petition: Get restrictions on relievers pitching

Post  dairyman81 on Sat Apr 10, 2010 3:34 am

I still think there should be a max numbers of innings for the entire season along with the 4 innings max per game.

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4 inning max

Post  levins8990 on Sat Apr 10, 2010 4:09 am

and a 306 season inning limit so you can't use a reliever for to maximum innings per game. 4 inning game max 306 inning season max.

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Re: Petition: Get restrictions on relievers pitching

Post  dairyman81 on Sat Apr 10, 2010 4:13 am

starters dont even pitch 300 innings in a full season in real life.. are you drunk?

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